In high school french class, we were introduced to a student teacher who would be studying our class and teaching for a few months. She was a very cute portugese woman who had the largest bun of dark brown hair any of us had seen. She wore it in different style buns, sometimes 5" high or sometimes 3-4" high and covering her head from front to back. The day she finally wore it down, everyone was amazed. Though it was still in an overhand knot at the back of her head, the loose length hung to her knees. When asked how long it was, she teasingly said it was to the floor. Another girl in class surmised that it would be down to her calves. She said she never wore it down because people made too big a deal out of it. At the time it was the longest hair I had ever seen. Cary